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Poster: billydlions Date: Jul 29, 2009 7:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best MSG Shows

9-15-88 is my pick from that tour but no one show really stands out as being the best from that run of 8 shows, which is why none made the list. I freely admit my bias of not liking the post-Brent era, nor do I believe any of those shows are better than the 5 listed. I would even add 3-10-81 and 10-12-83 to my list before the '90 & '91 MSG shows.

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Poster: barongsong Date: Jul 29, 2009 7:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best MSG Shows

Yea my lack of knowledge of both the 81 and 83 shows probably makes my list pretty irrelevant knowing how good those years are. That said there are quite a few in 90 and 91 that I really enjoy and Hornsby seems to make up for my early Vince distaste. As for 88 I was thinking it was either 9-22 or 9-15 or even 9-18 for it's novelty and overall fun feeling that were the shows from that msg run. Although none of them make my top 5.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Jul 29, 2009 3:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best MSG Shows

I was lucky enough to be there on 10/11/83 and it's a perfect example of "one of those shows" that was significant more for the breakout of that "Stephen" than for overall excellence in playing.

I saw some of the MSG run in '88 and again in '90 and arguably there were better played shows than that night in '83....but nothing will ever compare to that feeling of euphoria that washed through the crowd when the first St. Stephen in 5 years emerged from Space.

I had a deja vu type moment again in 1986 when I was at Hampton for the first "Box of Rain" in FOURTEEN years--and very much like MSG 3 years earlier, this was not a "great" show in terms of performance (what in '86 was, really?)...and in fact they performed many better versions of "Box" in subsequent shows...but I wouldn't trade that breakout moment for anything.

There were heads flooding the payphones at the end of the set (they concluded the first set w/"Box"), yelling the song title into the phone and hanging up...a line over and over...all the same thing: "Box of Rain!" followed by a hang-up...rinse and repeat...I can only imagine the folks on the other end going "Damn it!"...

Breakout moments are part of what made the Dead show experience so much fun. Rarities to be sure, but you never knew when you were gonna get one...kind of like following your favorite baseball team and being lucky enough one day to be at a game where the pitcher throws a no-hitter.

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Poster: billydlions Date: Jul 29, 2009 4:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best MSG Shows

If had the choice between attending 10-11-83 vs 6-27-85, I'm not sure which I would choose, but you are a lucky guy to have been to both shows! 6-27-85 to me is what 10-29-77 is to you. Perhaps it's because I had that show on tape early on but I do believe it's one of the best of the '80's and under appreciated. I think everyone of us here has that 1 show that they love for some strange reason....I can think of a few such as 11-24-79, 6-25-85, 6-14-68, etc..

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Poster: Old_NJ_Head_Zimmer Date: Jul 29, 2009 5:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best MSG Shows

Billy,

I was at both 83 Garden shows and whole summer 85 run. Believe me when I tell you, you would rather be at the Garden that night!! The crowd responce was greater than the Box breakout, Criptical Breakout, the HCS breakout, the Unbroken Chain breakout, the Richmond Gloria or any other breakout I saw!! Sheer lunacy. Also, the Stephen a few nights later in Hartford got a nice responce but NOTHING like the MSG show.

By the way, I went back and touched the 6-25-85 and 6-27-85 again recently after some postings. At the time I thought they were the cat's meow, now they seem to have lost a little shine for me. I was there and had great times. As far as best SPAC show, the 83 show was truely magnificant. It doesn't get respect it should because there is no known soundboard. I saw all the SPAC shows.

Like you said, some shows just stick with ya. What I've found is that is true as well as some shows stick with you for a while and some shows fall of and them come back to stick with you again later!!

Enjoy them all!!

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Poster: billydlions Date: Jul 29, 2009 6:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best MSG Shows

SPAC '83 is in desperate need of an upgrade. I assume that if it was in the vault we would know by now. Rhino has to have some major upgrade out there, wouldn't you think??? I would love a cleaned up road trips for those 2 MSG shows from '83.

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Poster: barongsong Date: Jul 29, 2009 5:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best MSG Shows

That St. Stephen break out of space in MSG must have been Amazing especially with the big energy that is always present there anyhow. The only thing I can compare it to was the Ripple breakout I saw in 88 but the difference there was that it was at the end of the show so the impact of it spilled out into the parking lot where there were people freaking out for missing it as well as people still in ecstasy.
As for the Box of Rain breakout I still remember my friend coming back from Hampton and gushing about it. It's probably the thing that piqued my curiosity, as to what all this excitement was about, and why I decided to go to Providence 86 for my first show with him.